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Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Proverbs Study – Lesson 49 – August 28, 2011– Seacoast Community Church

Proverbs Study – Lesson 49 (Proverbs chapter 30:18-33)
V. 18-9 Next he in a bit of a poetic way prompts thought that is not fully meant for complete and fully known knowledge. He stated this in a way that seems to prompt his students to search things out in life that are mysteries but in the process to be reminded to enjoy the process for there is pleasure and purpose in the journey. We see this in the term(s) that he uses here. He states that in seeing these mysteries they prompt his curiosity not knowing the answer but still giving him a ‘wonderful’ feeling or perception.
Watching a bird, especially a rather large and beautiful one, navigate the air with such poise and confidence has always been a pleasure of man. We can analyze and figure out to death how it is that it is done, but no need to, just to watch its gracefulness is enough. It is the same for watching a serpent on a rock. Some translations translate serpent meaning a snake others specify it as being a lizard. There is a pleasure in just watching. It is a little different for watching a ship on the sea.  It is not hard to put ourselves in their position while still standing on dry land imagining what it must be like out there, in our mind helping them on their journey.
But, the last one that he mentions is a real mystery. The love shared and expressed between a man and woman is an unfolding mystery that can last a lifetime. It must be stated here that it is sure that he is not just referring to the relationship between men and women in general, for he goes on in v. 20 to give an example of an inappropriate example of love. The first thing we think of in our culture in mentioning a relationship between a man and woman is the physical relationship involving sex. But, instead in v. 19 he makes reference to the wonder and satisfying experience of a healthy proper relationship between a man and a woman which involves more than just sex in marriage and prior to marriage does not include sex at all. He makes mention that this relationship is so full that words cannot explain it. His comment here of these things seems to highlight these as well as other wonders of life saying, ‘don’t go to fast, passing them by. If you do you will miss some of the best parts of life’.
In v. 20 he shows the opposite of right living that is complete and full by giving us a picture of the brute beast  of lusty pleasure saying that indulging in it becomes a trap that skews reality not knowing anymore what is right or wrong or which side is up or down. In this situation only one thing matters…pleasure. Nothing else matters and she can never get her fill. In this situation there is no room for the fullness of love between a man and woman in a biblical relationship. Lust and pleasure will not let in the other pleasures in a relationship that are outside the physical act of sex. Because of this the relationship becomes lopsided and instead of wonder becomes full of pain.
v. 21-3 The entire book of Proverbs has the purpose of helping us put life into perspective. However, when things are out of place, out of bounds or is not as it is meant to be life becomes ‘odious’ as stated here in this section becoming burdensome making it impossible or near impossible to bear. In this world of relativism where anything is ok, Agur would say that it is not so. There are certain things that do not mix and do not fit no matter how much you try to deny it. He picks four things. There are more. But, he says that they are things that are such a mismatch that he warns his students of them so that when they encounter them they will know to stand clear.
The first he mentions is someone that is put into a position of authority that they are not equipped to do. There are those who are task oriented and those who are managerial in nature. He says that putting a servant in a managerial position where they are required to make decisions that affect other peoples’ lives can be harmful. As a matter of fact he has observed in his experience and lifetime that it can be downright devastating.
The second thing that he states that he observed is that when a fool is full he has no motivation. He saw that a fool is not motivated to work to make life better, but instead uses up everything around them taking no thought for tomorrow. To their detriment they not only do not work a plan, but they have no plan for tomorrow. They are only motivated when squeezed by life to move and Agur noticed that they had no motivation what so ever when full. In our day he would advise us to not make people in need too comfortable as to not realize that they are part of the answer to their problem. He would say that a little need and a little hunger can do a lot to motivate the unmotivated to act on their behalf to care for those things that they should be responsible for.
Next we are warned again here in Proverbs to be careful of trading temporary benefits for a life of misery and pain. In the KJV he uses the term ‘odious’ to describe the personality of the woman he describes here. Some commentaries make the point that this person prior to marriage tends to hide the real them, some doing this very well, only to fully reveal the real them after tying the knot. There are of course differing degrees of this in most relationships, but this one referred to here is not the norm. It is extreme and dramatic making this person impossible to be with after marriage. He warns us to be careful advising to go into a relationship with our eyes open telling us to not be too hasty in taking the important step of marriage. He is not advising us to necessarily distrust a person, but to not throw away good judgment when considering such an important decision. Some can be very good at hiding ‘the real them’, but if enough time and due consideration is given to the relationship big mistakes can be avoided.
Lastly he mentions the potential problem of a servant girl replacing her mistress. The reference here is not just the possibility of an inappropriate relationship between the master and a servant, but can also refer to and is more likely referring to a servant taking the place of her mistress that has passed. It is obvious the problems that can occur in the first situation. But, making the transition between servant and mistress is also a difficult step in life and one not easily accomplished. It is shortsightedness and narrow thinking to think that all that is involved is love between two. There are many other peripheral parts to this relationship that are needed to make this work. One that is often overlooked is the family connections on both sides of the relationship. Others involved in the lives to these two can often make or break a relationship. This is why many marriages involving different cultures are often so difficult. Customs and ways are real issues and are not often taken into consideration in such relationships making it not impossible to overcome, but difficult and to say the least challenging.
Next in verses 24-28 he mentions four mysteries that not only intrigues him, but makes the point that these things can if we follow their example and understand their mystery benefit our lives greatly. In verse 24 he makes the comment that these are small things that can be overlooked, but if we could harness their gift it could have great benefit to our life.
His first observation is the ant and he is overcome by their ability to accomplish such great things by being organized and pulling together and yet being so insignificant and small on their own. He in particular is impressed with their ability here to plan ahead and by doing so they survive and have a bright future. He would advise that we follow their example, planning ahead for the future far before it arrives.
In v. 26 he is impressed with where the rock badger chooses to make his home. His observation is that this animal does not move very fast and therefore is somewhat vulnerable to dangerous encounters, but realizing this chooses to build their home in a fortress making him less vulnerable than other more agile and stronger creatures. If this creature could talk his advice to others concerning safety and positioning our self for life would be ‘location, location, location’.
He continues in v. 27 with a true mystery in essence saying how do they do this. He is overcome with wonder having seen the devastation that can occur with such a feeble insect. Locusts normally individually do not cause enough damage to be overly concerned about. But, for some reason, some unknown force causes them to unite becoming organized as to appear as one causing devastation so great as to boggle the mind. He says in essence that they act as though as they have a king, but none can be found. His observation is one of wonder wishing he could discover their secret, but as yet not having figured it out. We can identify with him for it is still a mystery to us today. He would say ‘Think of the benefit and possibilities to us if we could understand and apply their wisdom’. His advice to us would probably be to keep working on it for the observation and idea has great potential for the future.
And, in v. 28 he is amazed how small things have great potential and not intimidated by giants that they face. As a matter of fact upon observation their handicap can often turn out to be their greatest strength if applied with wisdom. It says that by intention a small thing can penetrate something thought impenetrable by using her determination, abilities and confidence. Many would not even try giving up before they started. Some translations translate this entity as a spider, others as a lizard. Agur would say little things like a spider can encourage and inspire us to tackle things much bigger than us if we follow their example.
V. 29-31 reminds us that how we present ourselves to others like it or not makes an impression on them and we are treated accordingly. He gives four examples here and even though none are examples of direct action or exhibition of power, all of them prompt decisions on our part to approach the examples given with respect and in some cases caution. The Lion just by his walk and manor reminds us to beware and to not take for granted his presence. In v. 31 the first example stated is translated various ways. The reason for this is that the literal translation is ‘one with loins girded’. This could refer to several animals and is translated in different translations as gray hound, a rooster or cock, an eagle or a horse. It is unknown if he was referring to a particular animal or a group of them, but at any rate the reference is to a strong and graceful appearing animal that by its poise demanded notice and respect. He continues by naming two other entities that do the same. There is no doubt as to who the king of the corral is when looking at a pen filled with animals. It is rare to not be able to instantly pick out the head cheese when looking. A king often has to do nothing but look at you to impress you with his will demanding your attention saying ‘this is important’ you better not miss this.
V. 32-3 ‘Don’t do it…Don’t do it…Don’t say it…Don’t say it’, the outcome is sure and you will live to regret it.  We have all thought of things that we were going to do or say, making and formulating the plans in our head, right on the verge of execution when we come to our senses and say ‘What was I thinking?’. He advises here in v. 32-3 not to go ahead and do or say it as the self centered voice inside us is prompting us to do. In v. 33 he makes the point that the outcome of such is a sure as the outcome of shaking cream or punching someone hard in the nose, you are sure of what you will get. Going ahead will produce strife as sure as shaking cream will produce butter. Once let out of the pen of conjecture or thought the wild horse is out of the pen and now you must deal with the outcome. He advises that you had better think twice about what you are about to do, or say, if necessary taking an action step and ‘putting your hand over your mouth’ or ‘diverting the action of your hands or feet in another direction’ as to not do or say it. If you do not listen to his advice and do or say what you have devised you will be forcing a confrontation or putting into motion something you will live to regret. 

Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Proverbs Study – Lesson 48 – August 21, 2011– Seacoast Community Church


Proverbs Study – Lesson 48 (Proverbs chapter 30:10-17)
V. 10 reminds us that it is easy to criticize others…especially those less fortunate. Often our criticism can be for such petty things or reasons. Criticizing a servant for minor and petty offences can have severe repercussions for a servant, repercussions that they, the servant, will not forget, waiting for payback when the right time presents. His council here is ‘leave another man’s servant alone’ unless the offence is grave and severe. You may think that you are helping out the employer or master, but you are more than likely opening up a can of worms concerning all involved. Application of this verse today could be don’t report everything to the boss…especially the littler things. It is none of your business and you may smart for it later. The Apostle Paul in Rom. 14:4 said in essence ‘What business is it of yours’. Your opinion is your opinion and will cause nothing but trouble for them. Trouble they may not deserve, as well as eventually causing trouble for you as well.
In verses 11-4 he goes on to tell his students some important things for young people to think about and understand. Respect is supreme and pride if not dealt with will continue becoming a lifestyle that will last a lifetime being very damaging. Again we see that he restates one of the Ten Commandments saying that it is a directive from God to honor our father and mother. It was a requirement in the Old Testament and was one of the first laws and requirements God found to be beneficial for man. Every nation and society that turns their back on the wisdom and ways of their parents will have as a natural progression the attitude and perspective of the beginning of v. 12…self righteousness. This is one of the most deadly traits of man, that is justifying our actions when there is clearly a problem.
This does not mean that some of the ways of the past do not need to be changed or tweaked. But, changes need to be questioned and made with respect to parents realizing that they did get some things right. A new generation if they leave the past behind will leave behind the good with the bad. Rehoboam did this as recorded in I Kings chapter 12 and suffered for it as well as his nation. This problem can and does have severe and penetrating ramifications. The comment is often made that it is an ‘old fashion’ concept and that comment has applied to it that because it has been around for a while that it is no longer relevant. However, many of the ways of the past are still extremely practical having practical application and if discarded are only rediscovered at a later date being hailed as a new discovery and reapplied to applicable life issues. It was Solomon that said that ‘there is nothing new under the sun’. Respect for the ways of the past builds on what is good from the past and has a practical advantage of making the future better.
He continues on in v. 12 saying that such a generation that thinks that they have all the answers degrades into a cesspool of wickedness…not a good scene. Notice the emphatic emphasis on their end being lifted up so high in their own eyes that they are only sure of their fall, and how great their fall shall be.  Great civilizations have had their end such as this being so proud believing that they can break all the rules and think that they can still survive and/or even prosper. Is our nation and the nations of the world headed and well on the way here?
He continues in v. 14 with the natural progression of a nation that turns their back on their mother and their father giving the picture of society degrading to complete survival mode…survival of the fittest where if left unto its own none would survive. What a hostile and mean society. As stated before, a society that denies the basic laws of God is sure to eventually parish. Thank God for His intervention into our lives to literally ‘save us’ from our selves.
V 15 Reminds us that there are givers and takers, and givers tend to be givers and takers tend to be just that ‘takers’. He mentions here what is referred to as the horse leach. This term is mentioned nowhere else in the Bible and we are not totally sure of its actual meaning. It is surmised from the context and the name that the reference is to nothing but a blood sucking entity that will continue to suck the life out of something till there is nothing left. And if that is not enough, he drives the point home by saying that this beast also has relatives that even though uninvited will be there and come to visit. He tells us that they are ungrateful and are never satisfied asking for more no matter how much they have. Unfortunately, this sounds like many of those in our nation today, never being satisfied with the good that they already have always wanting more. He says that their cry is always ‘more, more’. When taking in context of the preceding verses these could be young people that have never grown up, never taking on the responsibilities of life, never being satisfied, always wanting more, pretty much looking for a free ride. This is why more government programs are not the answer. He, Agur, actually should have added it to the following list of things that are never satisfied making government one of his examples. He would have undoubtedly instructed his students to accept responsibility in life instead of blaming everyone else of their lack. Agur I am sure would admit that we all have times where we could use some help, but this crowd does not fall into that category.
V. 16 He goes on to give examples of things that are always receiving but never full always wanting more. He specifically names four things here. He names the grave, the barren womb, the earth’s ability to accept water and fire. If the grave had a voice it would always be like the daughters of the horse leach crying for more…never full…never satisfied. Even after great slaughter the spirit of death looks for more. Next he mentions the barren womb. It is not exactly sure what is meant here. It could be referring to a woman having a barren womb always crying to God to be full. However, there is also mention by some commentators that it could refer to the barren womb of a harlot that craves to be full and satisfied concerning lust, never being satisfied always wanting more pleasure. The third thing he mentions is his observation that no matter how much water the earth accepts it seems that there is always room for more. And, fire, what a great example, is never satisfied. It will always accept more and will still be asking or saying, ‘feed me’. One may ask ‘what is his point in mentioning these’? Although they may just be observations of wonder to him, they more likely are examples of not being able to satisfy the ungrateful termed as the ‘horse leach’ in the beginning of v. 15 which also could apply to the verses preceding v. 15 as well as that which follows, v. 17.
V. 17 He again returns to the need of his students understanding the importance of respect. He makes the point that critical children never learn anything and in the end suffer in very real ways for it. Adding to what was mentioned in earlier verses in this chapter, children that are disrespectful often verbally make sport openly criticizing their parents for anything and everything no matter what it is. As a parent of children like this in their eyes you can do nothing right. He warns them that they will smart for it suffering real and significant consequences that will be painful. He makes the point that the wounds inflected will also not be easily overcome. These are hard lessons of life for such foolishness!

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Proverbs Study – Lesson 47 – August 14, 2011– Seacoast Community Church


Proverbs Study – Lesson 47 (Proverbs chapter 30:1-5, 6-9)
Read Prov. 30:1-5 again. Last week we took a look at these verses and were reminded of some important precepts when attempting to understand and apply true wisdom…that is the wisdom for life and its practical application that comes from God. We saw that practical wisdom that comes from God goes deeper than just taking a few steps to accomplish the goal…attempting to paying the price to purchase wisdom so to speak. The wisdom that God speaks of is only obtained through humility and comes through a recognition that it is a gift given by a Living God. In the process of searching it out we come to a place of awe and reverence seeing the God and Creator of this wisdom prompting us to realize our dependence upon Him.
Again in the first part of this chapter we are reminded of one of the few but most important steps in obtaining and understanding this wisdom…i.e. the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. In applying this principle there is a recognition that God does exist and can be approached and in actuality in the process of searching out and applying this wisdom we can have interaction and a relationship with this God. We saw this last week when we took a look at Job’s search for answers in Job chapters 38-40:5. In that passage we saw a dialog between a real God and Job a man. In searching out wisdom we may be able to understand it with our human heart for we were made for it, but it is doubtful that we can truly establish it without His, God’s, help.
In Hebrews 11:6 we see another essential ingredient where it says, But without faith it is impossible to please God; for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that God Himself is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. May I say that this reward is Godly wisdom…that is knowledge of the Holy. In v. 3 Agur claimed that he was still in the process of obtaining this wisdom of the Holy.
If we take the time to stop and reflect on V. 4 in this chapter for a moment we see some interesting statements by Agur that we cannot pass up of where this search and journey for wisdom led him:
·        First he comes to the point where he recognizes the bigness of God especially as compared to man. He mentions three things that are out of the realm of man and must be attributed to some being.
·        Next he notices that it appears to him that he sees and recognizes that there appears to be a Person and personality behind the forces and phenomena of nature. Natural man approaches such phenomena with the perspective of separating out the phenomena from God just wanting to know why it is and why it works so. But, Agur chooses to worship instead recognizing and reverencing the God behind the phenomena.
It is interesting that in this verse he also challenges us to search out the Name of this Person, and of particular interest he asks the question of His Son’s Name. Wow! This verse intrigues me. In stating this it immediately points me to Jesus and the calming of the sea found in Matt 8:23-7. He also makes reference to the establishing the ends of the earth in which Jesus is given credit for this in Jn. 1:3,10. Many Bible commentators although careful not to take this verse and run with it dogmatically tagging this definitively as a direct reference to Christ make the point that the shoe so to speak fits and is not only representative of God, but also of the Son of God. But, did Agur actually state this here with that in mind. Although some may have opinions, it is not completely clear as to his intent.
In vs. 5 and 6 he reminds us of the reverence that we should have for the completeness of God’s Word being complete in its own wisdom being able to stand on its own encouraging us to be careful not to twist it and its meaning for our own selfish benefit. In the beginning of v. 5 other translations translate what the KJV translates as ‘Every word of God is pure’ saying that these precepts have been pretested or tried out by God and have been found to be solid and complete being flawless, lacking nothing. The Douay-Rhelms translation says ‘Every word of God is fire tried’ and the American Standard translates it as ‘Every word of God is tested’ by God to be sure that it is right. Understanding this and believing this allows us to apply what is said with confidence and hold on to the truth long enough to see its reality in our life. V. 6 reminds us that God does take the truth of His word seriously warning us of the consequences of speaking on God’s behalf inappropriately (Reference the DeHann article http://beenthinking.org/articles/the-wisdom-of-agur/).
In verses 7-9 after laying the framework on which to place such wonderful and clean principles he, Agur, begins his instruction. When reflecting on the previous verses of this chapter after hearing what he said we could go home and need no more to prompt our search for Life and its Purpose. The journey to figure out and search out the things of the first six verses of this chapter could not only take a lifetime, but may be a journey that lasts all eternity.
But, there is more! He begins in v. 7 with the same spirit of the previous verses assuming nothing…having his heart open before the Lord waiting for the answers. Even with all that this man Agur knew and had learned he had to admit that he still did not fully understand and still desired a full and complete answer and picture of these two things he named here. It is interesting that his request was to have learned these things before he died. It is interesting that he was willing to take the time to really understand the TRUTH about them not just incomplete surface level concepts of it. It was Paul Harvey that had a segment of his news cast where he told what you might think was a news worthy event seeming complete with enough details. But, then you would hear those famous words. He would say, but here is the rest of the story making the ending more meaningful and different than what you had thought. Are we willing to do the same?? Are we willing in our culture today to wait till we have all the facts that we can represent the Truth fully and accurately? If our media was only founded on this principle where would our world be? As representatives of God it is important that we get it right.
In v. 7-9 it is interesting to see the two topics that he chose to hang all of his life on. The first he asks for is that vanity and lies are removed from him. What would the world be like if everyone had this perspective? Think of it. If you were having a conversation with a friend or acquaintance and could take everything at face value how much easier would that be when responding back to their comment or question. Let us be clear here. Agur was not actually asking that vanity and lies be removed from the earth,..as much as he probably would have liked to see it. But, he was asking it for himself as well as those around him, and in stating it to his students he was saying to them that they should consider asking and seeking the same.
Agur understood the depth of the problem of vanity which in essence finds its root in Pride, one of the things that God hates. Agur strove to be a straight forward person. In today’s terms we would call that a ‘real person’, being so called transparent with no ‘hidden’ agendas. HOW REFRESSING!
The second thing that he asks for is a attitude and place in life where he is neither discouraged in life because of its oppressive toughness or fat and haughty because of abundance. As a truly wise and honest with himself man he realized two things about himself in life. He says, let’s be honest…Being dirt poor in life is no fun. In actuality he gives the impression that he does not want to be in this position too long unless absolutely ordained so by God. Although some may survive poverty, most don’t. Agur had observed what poverty did to people. He observed that poverty for many was not always a spiritual experience saying in v. 9 that it often drives those in this state to steal and curse God. Agur’s observation concerning poverty was not much different than the effects of having money and wealth. Whether you have a lot or have nothing or near nothing the problem is the same. It seems that no matter how much you have you always want a little or even a lot more, and, if you don’t have it and it doesn’t look like you will get in the near future it is man’s nature to blame God for the it.
He reminds us also in v. 9 that being full is not always a good thing. Having needs is actually a healthy place to be in life. He said that in being there we, if we have the right attitude and perspective, are prompted by them, that is by those needs, to call upon God to supply them. And, having in time receiving our needs and sometimes our wants, having just asked God for them we can thank Him for providing them. He, Agur, in essence asks for no more than daily bread and sustenance. If this verse were taken by itself some would say he is saying we shouldn’t plan for tomorrow. But, the rest of Proverbs would deny this thought or concept. But, he would say that you can have too much and have the attitude of being self sufficient needing neither God nor man. In Matt. Chapter 6 Jesus stated a similar perspective as Agur. Jesus, like Agur, in actuality was encouraging our dependence upon God reminding us that things often fail.

Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Proverbs Study – Lesson 46 – August 7, 2011– Seacoast Community Church

Proverbs Study – Lesson 46 (Proverbs chapter 30:1-5)
Young's Literal Translation
30:1 Words of a Gatherer, son of an obedient one, the declaration, an affirmation of the man: -- I have wearied myself for God, I have wearied myself for God, and am consumed.
 Psalm 73:22 >> (Statement by Asaph)




New International Version (©1984)
I was senseless and ignorant; I was a brute beast before you.
New Living Translation (©2007)
I was so foolish and ignorant--I must have seemed like a senseless animal to you.
English Standard Version (©2001)
I was brutish and ignorant; I was like a beast toward you.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then I was senseless and ignorant; I was like a beast before You.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
I was stupid, and I did not understand. I was like a dumb animal in your presence.
King James Bible
So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

V. 1-5 We come to an interesting part of the book of Proverbs, nearing the end of this book. Not only does it have a somewhat different personality or flavor here in the last two chapters, but there is some differing opinions as to who the author here in chapter 30 is. Most of the book of Proverbs to this point speaks with a confidence stating the confidence and surety that one may have in applying these principals and eventually getting or obtaining the implied benefit for doing so. However, even thought the precepts and principles are still stated with confidence and assurance here in chapter 30, man’s ability to apply these principles comes into question. It is obvious that the author, Agur spoken of here, is a learned and respected man to say the least. We can be sure of that because of what is said in this chapter and its inclusion in such a prominent text. But, because of the opening statements of this chapter there is differing opinions as to who this person Agur is.
Different commentators deduce differing conclusions using various logical approaches to reach their conviction. Some come to the conclusion that it is some unknown person as far as the historical record is concerned being prominent at the period having a reputation of spiritual wisdom. Others believe this to be Solomon being found here with more of a descriptive name of him, Agur meaning gather, instead of the use of his proper name. A similar example is found in Ecclesiastes 1:1 where he is called preacher. Others still believe that it possibly refers to someone during the time of Hezekiah who helped gather and compile the ancient proverbs.
However, whatever conviction one might hold as to who this person is one would have to admit that this chapter opens with some interesting descriptive words about the author. The tone of the description of himself one would have to admit is certainly different than the confident spirit expressed in the preceding chapters of this book. In saying this it is good to make the point here that even though it may appear to be out of character for the author being a learned man to make such statements about himself, especially if considering this person to be even Solomon, that it may not be out of character at all and is an aspect that we must consider when approaching and applying the complete body and practical application of this book. In other words, it may not be as important as to who this is as much as what is said and how they expressed their heart here. In getting or really understanding the practical benefit of the words in this book what is said here makes perfect sense and may be, or is, a perfect destination if these Proverbs have really found a place in our heart. As we will see others in the Bible record have ended up here and as we will see it in actuality is not a bad place to end after studying this book.
First, it may provide helpful information to give a brief definition of the names listed here:
Agur means gatherer…could mean gather of wise sayings or proverbs. For this reason some believe that this name is a reference to Solomon.
Jakeh means pious, blameless or obey..obedient. For this reason some make this out to be David.
Ithiel means God in me in the Hebrew and Ucal means I am strong, power, prevalence. Some have said that because of the meanings of these names that they may make reference to Christ.
The purpose of this class is not to spark a debate and another opinion as to who these people named here are. But, the jewel of this passage may well be the spirit shown here of the one who understands the real purpose of the Proverbs. It is interesting when we take a look at the book of Proverbs as a whole that it begins with the same spirit that it is ending with, that is with a ‘humble’ position before an Almighty God. Prov. 1:7 admonishes us to approach God and the truth that He has for us with the right spirit saying that ‘the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom’. It makes the point that when all else is said and done it is our reverent humble position before Him that allows wisdom to take hold in our life.
Some in our world want just the product, caring nothing for the Creator or Inventor of the benefit or product that they seek. ‘Just give it to me…I will apply it so that I may get the benefit’ is their attitude. Many non believers come to the Proverbs in this way and do receive great benefits. But, in the principles and practical application of these wise sayings there is more. In understanding and seeing the wisdom behind them one who really begins to understand that there is Someone behind all of this and when we begin to see this One we will begin also to see our inadequacies and come to the same conclusion as Agur did that we really don’t have much to offer him. We are more on the receiving end…a humble place to be.
Some make the point that this could not refer to Solomon because he would never refer to himself as unlearned or lacking in wisdom. The person here in v. 2 of chapter 30 actually refers to himself as being stupid, even feeling less knowledgeable than even other men. Ever been there? This is a common perception and response for one caught in the Presence of God. Knowledge by itself tends to exalt or puff up. But, understanding tends to bring us low realizing our dependence upon God.
The Apostle Paul came to this point in the 7th chapter of Romans where he said in v. 24 ‘Oh, wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?’ And, then states the Answer to this dilemma in v. 25. Paul also makes the statement in the beginning of chapter 3 of Romans that we all truly find ourselves in this place if we understand the position of man in relation to God. Even righteous Job when he found himself in the Presence of God really had nothing to say in response to the Almighty’s questioning of him. Job 38, 39 and 40:1-5. And, Solomon himself when he had tried life on his own, applying his own version of wisdom came to the end that life on our own is vanity and giving us his conclusion in Ecc. 12:13-4 telling us that in the end it is our reverence for God and not our self confidence that matters.
So, as Proverbs begins in humility, Prov. 1:7, it also ends with a humble reminder. As we take a look at the last two chapters of this book, if we have really begun to understand the wisdom and true content of this book it will like Job prompt us to have the right attitude toward God and the wisdom He has shared with us bringing us to the place that we find Agur here in chapter 30. It is true that the ‘Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom’. It is important that in applying this wisdom that we get it ‘right’ representing God’s version and intent and not our own making it work for our benefit alone. A true knowledge and application of Proverbs should prompt us to worship and reverence walking confidently in His precepts and principle, but also walking humbly.
In the end, could this Agur have been Solomon referring to him as the collector of sayings? Possibly? Even though he spoke of himself in an uncommon and seemingly inappropriately way, it would not be inconsistent to find even a truly wise man to be saying such things. As a matter of fact it is very possible that a truly wise person would be faced with such an encounter. That being said we really do not know who this Agur was, but that is really not the important point of these passages. What is important is the spirit and position that Agur found himself before God prompting his reverence and devotion to God and the wisdom found here.

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Mart De HaanPosted by Mart De Haan
June 1st, 2008

Wednesday, August 3, 2011

Proverbs Study – Lesson 45 – July 31, 2011– Seacoast Community Church

Proverbs Study – Lesson 45 (Proverbs chapter 29:19-27)
V. 19 it’s a fact. Even though it is someone’s job, even though they are suppose to do it, even though they are getting paid to do it and the arrangement is clear, relaying to them what to do and how to do it is not enough. You will probably have to follow up on them and the job to be sure that it gets done being done right. It says here in this verse that they may even clearly understand what was said, but if you do not take the step to check to see that it was done and done right, inspecting the job, you may be surprised. But, don’t be surprised. You shouldn’t be. It is a rare person that will actually do what is expected of them without further guidance and oversight even when they know what to do. If you happen to meet someone that actually takes the step of doing what they know is their job with little or no oversight, if you are really smart or wise, you will not just leave it at that and be satisfied with this person just doing their expected job. If you are smart you will realize the gift that you have and will be sure to take care of this person moving them to a better place or position with more responsibility and better pay being sure not to spoil them. If you meet someone like this realize that they are a rare person and treat them accordingly. But…, most of the time, you will have to be satisfied with being sure that the task needed to be done is first explained and understood by a good or average worker, but there is one more thing, you will have to follow up on the job to be sure that it is done the way you would like it.
V.20 You say things that you regret or that you haven’t thought through when you speak too many words… too soon. When you reply before you have had time to think things through to the logical end it is inevitable that you will not only miss the mark but in the end will also have collateral damage. Words said in haste have no substance, form or real inherent purpose. Such words are usually said out of anger or said intended for the wrong reason such as a means of control or to impress someone. But, once said it is done. You are now bound by your words, and…fulfilling them can be burdensome and often unrealistic causing repercussions that may hurt. He gives the impression here that this is a basic foundational tool of life, that is, to think before you speak. He gives the impression that even a fool would probably have at least some understanding, giving some thought to what they were going to say. Not to do so, he says, would put one at the knowledge level to that of below a fool.
V. 21 It is a good thing to keep a certain amount of separation between labor and management or commander and enlisted. This does not mean that those with oversight should take advantage of their workers treating them unfair. But, the two do not always mix well either when treated the same in a work environment.  Labor and management have different needs and perspectives both traveling down the same path together toward accomplishing a project or producing a service or product. They can relate, or spend time together, but they must realize that they both have a different part in completing the task at hand. Too much familiarity between them can get in the way of completing the task. Solomon makes the point in this verse that if a servant is pampered when they are young that it is near impossible to get them to serve as a servant when they are older. Some versions translate that they will in all likelihood rebel in the end and may become somewhat of an antagonist or enemy if pampered when they are young. In doing so they may also influence other servants or workers to expect the same pampered treatment that they are receiving. This can develop into a Big problem. He would advise us to be sure to treat people fairly and right, but would also remind us to respect the parameters and boundaries in relationships especially in a work envirnment having special considerations. Crossing the line of familiarity can and often does create tension in the relationship that sometimes cannot be remedied.
V. 22 It is one thing to speak words when you are given to temper, but it is totally another thing when it is accompanied with one’s actions. Angry words can do a lot of damage. But, high level anger through someone who has an angry personality or make up is dangerous. At the very least you can expect a physical confrontation or a fight to frequently occur. But, here it says that a man given to fury will make many big mistakes in all likelihood injuring many around them probably severely. This person can only be expected to be known as a ‘sinner’ because of their actions and will remain so until they have, with God’s help, resolved their temper issue.
V. 23 It is totally predictable and you can expect it as a sure thing, a proud person will someday trip and fall being brought low in the process.  Pride can exult you or hold you up in the beginning, but one must remember that the one holding you up is yourself. When pride is the driving force you are destine to fall and when this happens there will be no one to step in to lift you back up again. You will either stand or fall on your own. However, it is not so for a humble person who has earned a reputation of honesty and honor. They too find themselves in rough or tough spots from time to time in life, but unlike the proud, when they run into difficulties that are too large for their abilities, because of the honor given to them by others, those around them will reach forward to them and lift them up in their time of need. Honor will sustain the humble, not allowing them to be forced to stand alone.
V. 24 If you become a companion to a thief for whatever reason you will live to regret it. You share in the blame and get none of the glory. No matter how long it takes for the story to be known and the thief to come to justice you can be sure that it will happen. In the meantime you will be forced to live as if you were the one that committed the crime being forced to live a life of secrecy and having to avoid things that may reveal the injustice. And, when a court date is set and you are called to testify when you are on the witness stand you will not even be able to testify to clearing yourself because of the details that you cannot reveal for fear of repercussions, things like perjury. Keeping silent is not a good thing if you know details or are a witness to a crime. Whether by choice or as a victim of circumstance the advice here is to tell what you know not becoming a accomplice to the problem. 
V. 25 Fear is an emotion that can affect the outcome of life in a big way. Without healthy fear life itself can end prematurely or be turned upside down in an instant. Certain types of fear in the right amount at the right time can be beneficial and downright necessary. But, other fears can rob us of the life and things that God intends for us. One of those areas of fear is the fear that we have of others that may speak against us having the possibility and potential to do us harm. Many of our daily decision are made on the basis of our fears of the possible outcomes. What people will do if we do not do this. What people will think if we do not do that. If we do this what will others say or think. If we decide to obey God and do what He is telling us to do what will others say. Solomon says in this verse that this line of thought and action is a Big trap calling it a snare. He says that instead of fearing man and the possible outcomes we should replace that with trust…trust in something that can be trusted…Trusting in God. He tells us that if we transfer our apprehensions and fears to God trusting that he will take care of the outcome we will find that we will be safe and secure in His presence. Life begins to take on new dimensions when we do this, opening doors that we never dreamed possible.
V. 26 You cannot fully trust what a person is going to do or what they will decide. Sometimes even a so called sure thing goes south. So it is in trusting that you will get a fair verdict from a respected government official like the king, or president. Even if they have a reputation of being fair they have a lot on their mind and may not be able to give it due consideration. Solomon advises us to not forget a sure thing saying that God is completely fair and just and can be trusted to listen. As a matter of fact in bringing our case or concern before Him we may be surprised to find out that He has already reviewed it and has begun to sift through the facts and details heading toward a verdict to remedy the situation. He makes the point that we can trust that His decision will be just receiving the outcome that is rightfully ours.
V. 27 Birds of a feather then to flock together. So do those who do good tent to hang with those who are good and tend to do good things. Those who love darkness and do evil things have nothing in common with those who they would call goodie-goodies who get pure pleasure from helping others or doing what is right. Paul put it this way in II Cor. 6:14b saying ‘For what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? And, what communion has light with darkness?’. If you were to put the two in a glass or beaker and tried to mix them it would be like trying to mix oil with water. They just do not go together. They are mutually exclusive.